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		<title>Kindle talk, with touches of autism</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[So my son Peter and I were noodling back and forth by e-mail, as we do now and again when some vagrant idea catches our fancy, and along the way it occurred to me that there were some points that might be of
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So my son Peter and I were noodling back and forth by e-mail, as we do now and again when some vagrant idea catches our fancy, and along the way it occurred to me that there were some points that might be of<br />
interest to onlookers. So, with his permission (and mine if he wants to<br />
post it on <a href="http://www.seebs.net/log/">his blog</a>) is a slightly edited version [with comments in<br />
brackets].</p>
<p>For background, Peter, now in his mid-30s, is autistic, but formally<br />
diagnosed only a year or so ago. And his spouse Jesse Hajicek has<br />
published (with a print-on-demand house called Lulu) a novel titled <a href="http://www.amazon.com/God-Eaters-Jesse-Hajicek/dp/1847288650/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1236691903&amp;sr=1-1">The<br />
God Eaters,</a> which has sold passably well on Amazon.</p>
<p>Linda:<br />
So I&#8217;m reading an article about Kindle and bookstores, and it occurs to<br />
me to wonder, is <em>God Eaters</em> available on Kindle? Can Jesse organize<br />
that, or does it have to be the publisher?</p>
<p>Peter:<br />
I don&#8217;t know.<br />
-s</p>
<p>Linda:<br />
Erm, that was a speech act. It doesn&#8217;t mean &#8220;Do you know?&#8221;; it means<br />
&#8220;You ought to check this out.&#8221;</p>
<p>Peter:<br />
Oh.</p>
<p>&#8230; Yeah, that makes sense.</p>
<p>So, here&#8217;s a puzzle:</p>
<p>Why do languages form these patterns?  What&#8217;s the <strong>*benefit*</strong> of having<br />
structures which have meaning other than their face-value meaning?</p>
<p>Linda:<br />
I think the generally accepted answer is that primates (not only us, and<br />
actually not only primates among mammals) are intensely status-conscious for reasons that are clearly connected to reproductive success, and the ability to signal and discern status is valuable. Being able to do both indirectly is an additional asset, because it allows everybody involved to save face, and thus avoid open conflict, which can lead to becoming dead.</p>
<p>Since you have some intuitive limitations in the indirectness dimension, you might find some of the work on speech acts, and on pragmatics more generally, of considerable practical use. For a start,<br />
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Searle</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t remember what text we used in Pragmatics, but that&#8217;s the general<br />
subject heading under linguistics. I do remember writing my final exam<br />
in the middle of the night from a hotel in New York, though not what I<br />
said.</p>
<p>Peter:<br />
Hmm.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m innately disposed to dislike [Searle], because the Chinese Box<br />
is so stupid, but I&#8217;m fascinated by the topic anyway.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see how they save face, though.</p>
<p>Linda:<br />
It&#8217;s like a vote of confidence in a parliamentary government. If a<br />
high-status individual gives an explicit order, and it is openly<br />
disobeyed, that precipitates a leadership challenge. But non-explicit<br />
&#8220;orders&#8221; allow everyone concerned to pretend that there was no<br />
disobedience, of course not, oh, no, just some plausible<br />
misunderstanding, and we don&#8217;t need to fight/vote about that right now,<br />
do we?</p>
<p>Peter:<br />
Ohhhhh.<br />
Man, you people are complicated.</p>
<p>Linda:<br />
That was sort of my point.</p>
<p>Peter:<br />
The more I study human communication, the more I conclude that most<br />
people are MUCH more complicated internally than I am.</p>
<p>Linda:<br />
I rather think we&#8217;re complicated in different ways. If humans had been<br />
subjected to selection pressure in your ways, for say six million years,<br />
and primates whose internal states resemble those of neurotypicals had<br />
been existing on the fringes for all that time, and suddenly there were<br />
environments where they could flourish differentially, what do you think<br />
a) human society would be like now? and b) where would it be heading?</p>
<p>Peter:<br />
No clue.  I suspect we&#8217;d have a lot less art, though.</p>
<p>So much art is rooted in internal conflict, and my internal conflicts are<br />
pretty much consistently trivial.  Similarly, so much of it relies on<br />
people being ashamed of their state, or afraid of it, or something, and&#8230;<br />
I just don&#8217;t get it.</p>
<p>Linda:<br />
By the way, Jane [Gmur] tells me there is Carnelli<br />
[http://mpedia.dan.info/index.php?title=Carnelli] on the program for the<br />
RG [Minnesota Mensa Regional Gathering in April]. Goody. I love<br />
Carnelli. I beat Jon Evans once. He was usually the Carnelli master, but<br />
for some reason he was playing, we were the last two in the circle and<br />
the timer was down to five seconds. The key title word was &#8220;up&#8221; as in<br />
&#8220;Up the Down Staircase,&#8221; or &#8220;Been Down So Long It Looks Like Up to Me,&#8221;<br />
and I said, &#8220;Up Yours.&#8221;</p>
<p>Which is not, so far as I know, the title of anything, but it was so<br />
unlike me, as Jon knew, that he exploded in guffaws and the<br />
(five-second) clock ran out.</p>
<p>Peter:<br />
Brilliant.</p>
<p>Linda:<br />
Brilliant? Maybe, if I&#8217;d had time to think about it, but I didn&#8217;t. It<br />
was just the first thing that came into my head.</p>
<p>Peter:<br />
That&#8217;s the brilliant part.  <img src='http://www.lindaseebach.net/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Linda:<br />
Also, I bluff a lot in Carnelli. That is, I lie; I make up stuff. You<br />
have to do it fast, or be prepared to do it as if you were saying<br />
something true spontaneously, because people who challenge you<br />
incorrectly lose their place in the circle. (If challenged, you are not<br />
allowed to lie.) People who&#8217;d played with me before knew I might be<br />
bluffing, but they also knew it was risky to challenge, because I will<br />
choose to say something true but improbable whenever I can.  At five<br />
seconds, these things don&#8217;t matter, because there isn&#8217;t time to think<br />
them through.</p>
<p>Puns are also highly valued. &#8220;Guns of Navarone&#8221; followed by &#8220;Never on<br />
Sunday,&#8221; is canonical, and one I had never heard but found on MPedia is<br />
&#8220;Tequila Sunrise&#8221; followed by &#8220;To Kill a Mockingbird.&#8221; Or maybe the<br />
other way around.</p>
<p>I was in a game once where the prevailing key word was &#8220;thing&#8221; and I was<br />
beside myself with anticipation hoping it would still be apposite when<br />
my turn came, and it was, and I got to say, &#8220;Of Thee I Thing.&#8221; Jon was<br />
the Carnelli Master in that game, I think.</p>
<p>Peter:<br />
&#8230; And there&#8217;s where I get my mileage back off being so much simpler<br />
than normal humans.  Five seconds is a LONG time to me.  In games timed at a few seconds, I have time to consider game theory.</p>
<p>My models are simplistic, but VERY fast.</p>
<p>[All this happened incidentally to whatever else we were doing, over five hours or so, but at this point, we switched to the telephone. Peter also lives in Northfield, about three miles from me, not that it matters. One more bit, later:]</p>
<p>Peter (after rereading the exchanges above):</p>
<p>This is the part that fascinates me still.  I can&#8217;t imagine how people can get anything done, given how long it apparently takes them.  And yet&#8230;</p>
<p>I think that&#8217;s the other reason ADHD wasn&#8217;t easy to spot when I was a kid. You check for it by seeing whether the kid can solve problems that take more than five seconds to solve, right?  If he can, that means he&#8217;s paying attention for more than five seconds&#8230; Right?</p>
<p>Oops.</p>
<p>Linda:<br />
Oh, I&#8217;ve gotta put that bit in too.</p>
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		<title>For sale online . . .</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 19:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I followed a link from Instapundit to a Strategy Page post about Japan&#8217;s new class of aircraft carriers, and at the end of the comments there&#8217;s an eBay ad, under the heading &#8220;Aircraft Carrier,&#8221; that says, &#8220;Browse a huge selection now. Find exactly what you want today.&#8221;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I followed a link from Instapundit to a Strategy Page <a href="http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htnavai/articles/20070825.aspx">post </a>about Japan&#8217;s new class of aircraft carriers, and at the end of the comments there&#8217;s an eBay ad, under the heading &#8220;Aircraft Carrier,&#8221; that says, &#8220;Browse a huge selection now. Find exactly what you want today.&#8221;</p>
<p>D&#8217;you suppose that&#8217;s like J. P. Morgan&#8217;s yacht &#8212; if you have to ask how much it costs, you can&#8217;t afford it?</p>
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		<title>Tiger, tiger</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 14:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tyler Cowen at Marginal Revolution says:

Sunday cat blogging
 Tyler Cowen
Where do most tigers live?
In the United States it turns out.  There are 4,000 tigers residing in captivity in Texas alone, where private ownership of tigers is legal.  The number of tigers left in the wild is perhaps no more than 5,100-7,500.
A tiger cub [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tyler Cowen at Marginal Revolution says:</p>
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<h3>Sunday cat blogging</h3>
<p class="authorname"> Tyler Cowen</p>
<p>Where do most tigers live?</p>
<p>In the United States it turns out.  There are 4,000 tigers residing in captivity in Texas alone, where private ownership of tigers is legal.  The number of tigers left in the wild is perhaps no more than 5,100-7,500.</p>
<p>A tiger cub costs about $1,000 while the more exotic blue-eyed white tiger costs $15,000.</p></blockquote>
<p>Ooh, tigers. Lions, too. Cats, all of them, who are just as fierce but they&#8217;re littler so we can risk keeping them.</p>
<p>I went to an antique-car show in Texas years ago, and a PR person showed up with a lion cub on a leash, promoting a local safari park.  A friend of mine sidled over, and petted the cub.</p>
<p>It bit him.</p>
<p>Not seriously, and I&#8217;m in no doubt that he thinks a loss of blood from a lion bite was a price worth paying for the story value.</p>
<p>So he went into the hotel&#8217;s restroom to wash off the blood and the guy at the next sink over asked, &#8220;Hey, what happened to you?&#8221;</p>
<p>Truthful response: &#8220;I was just bitten by a lion.&#8221;</p>
<p>Rapid evasive behavior ensued.</p>
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		<title>(Un)Spiritual (Un)Progressives</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2007 03:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some while back I began getting e-mails from a group calling itself the Network for Spiritual Progressives. By building the network, it says in its latest, &#8220;we can make a real contribution to        replacing a culture of selfishness and materialism with one imbued with     [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some while back I began getting e-mails from a group calling itself the Network for Spiritual Progressives. By building the network, it says in its latest, &#8220;we can make a real contribution to        replacing a culture of selfishness and materialism with one imbued with        love, kindness, generosity, open-heartedness, nonviolence, and radical        amazement at the grandeur of the universe.&#8221;</p>
<p>I wasn&#8217;t sure what fruitcake tin this bunch had emerged from, but in my experience people who go on about spiritual they are flatter themselves, and &#8220;progressive&#8221; is a political code word they use so they can easily locate others of like mind without taking the slightest risk they&#8217;d ever run into anyone with different ideas.</p>
<p>The message continues:</p>
<p>&#8220;For that reason, we&#8217;ve        decided to send you periodic snapshots of the discussions we&#8217;re having in        our office. These will be drawn from the daily-ish updates that our staff        send each other. We understand that many of you will not have time to read        these, in which case, please feel free to use that delete key.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh, <em>they&#8217;ve</em> decided, have they? By what right? And I&#8217;m to feel free to use the delete key, that&#8217;s decent of them.</p>
<p>Look, if I wanted to be on their daily mailing list of endless pretentious claptrap, I am quite capable of going to their website and signing up. That&#8217;s called &#8220;opt-in,&#8221; and it is the only polite way to add people to an e-mail list. Since I haven&#8217;t done so, this is nothing but spam &#8212; unsolicited bulk e-mail. And there is nothing either spiritual or progressive about spam. Tikkun &#8212; I bet you guessed &#8212; ought to know better.</p>
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		<title>Marriage and caste in America</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jul 2007 10:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kay Hymowitz was in Denver recently to speak at the annual “Smart Marriages” conference, one of those elaborate affairs put on largely for people who need to earn continuing education credits to keep their jobs – family therapists, marriage counselors and such. We met to talk about her work on marriage and childhood in America, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="margin: 0px">Kay Hymowitz was in Denver recently to speak at the annual “Smart Marriages” conference, one of those elaborate affairs put on largely for people who need to earn continuing education credits to keep their jobs – family therapists, marriage counselors and such. We met to talk about her work on marriage and childhood in America, much of it published in <em>City Journal,</em> where she is a contributing editor, and collected in a book, <em>Marriage and Caste in America: Separate and Unequal Families in a Post-Marital Age,</em> that came out last year.</p>
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<p style="margin: 0px">“Caste.” That&#8217;s an odd word in the American context, since it refers to inherited social status, as in India, where it is established, and often brutally enforced, as a matter of fact and sometimes of law. Americans loftily assume we don&#8217;t have anything like that here.</p>
<p style="margin: 0px; min-height: 14px">&nbsp;</p>
<p style="margin: 0px">Hymowitz makes a persuasive case that America does have a caste system, in fact though not in law, and it centers on education.</p>
<p style="margin: 0px; min-height: 14px">&nbsp;</p>
<p style="margin: 0px">Well-educated women, for the most part, follow the traditional life script; they grow up, finish school, get married and have children. In that order. Less educated women are more likely to have children before they marry, if they ever marry, and more likely to be divorced if they do. The result, in both cases, is that their children grow up and do likewise.</p>
<p style="margin: 0px; min-height: 14px">&nbsp;</p>
<p style="margin: 0px">This is not biological determinism – people are free to make choices, and some of them are good and some of them are bad, or anyway worse, given that the children of married parents are better off statistically than children raised in just about any other circumstances you can think of. And it is not about race – I know what you&#8217;re thinking – although there certainly are some statistical correlations with race, and very troubling they are.</p>
<p style="margin: 0px; min-height: 14px">&nbsp;</p>
<p style="margin: 0px">Her point is that people who follow the traditional life script, whatever race they are, can reasonably expect a smoother path through life than those who don&#8217;t, and so can their children. Anecdotes to the contrary prove nothing; if you care about your kids, present or future, that&#8217;s the way you should place your bets.</p>
<p style="margin: 0px; min-height: 14px">&nbsp;</p>
<p style="margin: 0px">In an interview with Kathryn Jean Lopez at nationalreviewonline, Hymowitz wrote, “What ails marriage is not that it don&#8217;t get no respect; it&#8217;s that Americans no longer understand its meaning. For most people it appears to be a love relationship between two adults having little to do with childbearing or childrearing.” (Links <a href="http://www.manhattan-institute.org/marriage_and_caste">here.</a>)</p>
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<p style="margin: 0px">That would seem to be borne out by a recent survey done by the Pew Research center, in which only 41 percent of respondents said having children was important to a successful marriage. Having children ranked eighth out of nine factors, well below “sharing household chores” and ahead only of “political compatibility.”</p>
<p style="margin: 0px; min-height: 14px">&nbsp;</p>
<p style="margin: 0px">Look, when you read obituaries, they are about children and grandchildren, not about how often someone remembered to take out the garbage. When people look back over their lives, they rarely say, “I wish I&#8217;d spent more time at the office.”</p>
<p style="margin: 0px; min-height: 14px">&nbsp;</p>
<p style="margin: 0px">There are many things about ourselves that we cannot change. But we can choose which life script to follow.</p>
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